john williams who is a dear friend and this generation's remarkable musician and composer, john wanted me to play that part. he actually stood up for me there and suggested me at one point. that was never going to happen. i don't know. i'm flattered. of course, everybody loves lincoln, i do. but i don't see other than the fact that we're both tall and somewhat skinny, he speaks much better in public than i do. >> is there a role you would like to play? >> no, this is fine. it is very unusual. i've spent my life being myself for a living and i think more than really -- more than anyone else i think i know. i think there are performers who develop and assume a character that they then play for the public. but i don't know anyone who is as much themselves publicly for a living as i am. so it's been an interesting ride. but i don't think i'm qualified to really understand it well, no. >> several people sent this question up so i feel obligated to ask, do you know who carly simon was singing about in you're so vain and will you share that with us? >> i think it's warren beatty. >> and he sa